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 Post subject: VMWare Fusion Support
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:59 pm 

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I need to use VMWare Fusion on my Mac for other work goodies. If you try to launch VirtualBox while VMWare is running it locks up the whole machine. Is there any way to get the emulator running under VMWare Fusion? My early attempts got a device that appeared to work but the graphics are messed up. The version before latest of Fusion doesn't support setting graphics as low as the Palm Pre requires (and I suspect it's not changed in the latest). Anyone have any luck with this approach?

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 Post subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Support
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:33 am 

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We've gotten this working on some machines but not on others. The machines in question have the exact same hardware and software configuration. It just works on some not others, sorry it's a weird one.

Is using the OSX SDK not an option?


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 Post subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Support
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:15 pm 

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enda.mcgrath wrote:
We've gotten this working on some machines but not on others. The machines in question have the exact same hardware and software configuration. It just works on some not others, sorry it's a weird one.

Is using the OSX SDK not an option?


I am using the OSX SDK. The problem is that VirtualBox and VMWare won't co-exist. So I can either work in VMWare or I can run the emulator, not both. If I could run the emulator under VMWare then I could do both. I suppose I could try migrating my VMWare machines to VirtualBox... I'll submit a ticket to VMWare, maybe they can help?

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 Post subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Support
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:13 pm 
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enda.mcgrath wrote:
We've gotten this working on some machines but not on others. The machines in question have the exact same hardware and software configuration. It just works on some not others, sorry it's a weird one.
Actually, what Enda is referring to is the fact that, for some reason, VirtualBox does not seem to run on Ubuntu when Ubuntu itself is running as a guest in VmWare Fusion.

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I am using the OSX SDK. The problem is that VirtualBox and VMWare won't co-exist. So I can either work in VMWare or I can run the emulator, not both. If I could run the emulator under VMWare then I could do both. I suppose I could try migrating my VMWare machines to VirtualBox...
This is different, and not something I've seen or heard of. In fact, many of us use the OS X version VirtualBox, running side by side (and simultaneously) with VmWare Fusion on the Mac.

I'm running both right now on a MacBook Pro and I do it all day long on a Mac Pro at work.

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I'll submit a ticket to VMWare, maybe they can help?
Heh... I wonder how the VMWare folks will respond to that? :-)

I don't believe that VMWare supports Intel VT-x (hardware virtualization support) for guests, which could in theory cause problems for VirtualBox. However, to specifically avoid this issue, we configure the Palm Emulator VM in VirtualBox with VT-x disabled, so this should not be an issue. Unfortunately there still seems to be some sort of problem on some machines.

It might actually be better to file a bug against VirtualBox since it runs in some VMWare guests but not others to see if they can figure out what's going on.

In any case, Palm Emulator should run just fine in Virtual Box on the host Mac right along side VMWare Fusion on the same Mac. Did you use the Palm Emulator application to create and launch the VM? Is it possible the settings got changed in the VirtualBox GUI app?

Could you run the VirtualBox GUI and make sure that the "sdk62" VM still shows "VT-x/AMD-V" and "Nested Paging" as "disabled" in the "System" settings?
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 Post subject: Re: VMWare Fusion Support
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:43 am 

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Well, I know what happened now. I had hand-set-up the virtual machine before and I didn't uncheck those options (and I was running a pre-release of VirtualBox 3.0). It appears you are quite correct that they co-exist when set up right! When it locked up before it just seemed intuitive to me that two virtual machines wouldn't work together. So, everything appears to work now and I'm happy.

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